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Posted 20-09-2006 06:26:36


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I guess I still don't understand the point. I make my drives with a C drive and a D drive, like most people I think. If the OS gets hosed, I can reghost my C drive in under 2 min. So what does spending the money get me that this doesn't besides the slight convenience? I checked into it, and it seems really expensive for what you get.

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Posted 21-09-2006 16:57:06


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There is no issue that comes from deep freeze itself but rather the issiue is nforce ide / sata driver.
Remove it or just simply dont install it during chipset drivers setup and you will be a happy Faronics costumer
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Deep freeze is guarantee you 100% no downtime and of course more from technical side of this e.g no disk fragmentation = faster loads , no file system errors = less scan disk / bad files error.
Yes you got a point and i agree but still there is a lot variables to have in mind.

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Posted 22-09-2006 11:03:09
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I personally downloaded DeepFreeze and tested it last night. My findings were amazing. I tried messing the system up as best as I could; I deleted as many registry entries as I could, I ran a "del * /f /s /q" from the hard drive root, and a "rmdir C:\ /s /q", (this was after other testing) and not matter what it restored everything quite nicely.

So, Greven, the reason why I would purchase this software is for complete system protection.  If I get any trojans or viruses, and not the nice friendly type that likes to go away easily, but the nasty stuff that digs into every file it can get its little hands onto, I can just reset and the problem is gone.

Now you have a point when you say you can just ghost the Windows drive and you're back up, but what about your games drive. What happens when something goes corrupt in there. I don't believe that is just a small ghost, and this is where DeepFreeze can protect you. The only time you need to "Thaw" your hdds are for Windows updates and game updates.

I don't see any disadvantage in using such software - I know it will be making my job easier when I get it.

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Posted 22-09-2006 13:57:12
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The only time you need to "Thaw" your hdds are for Windows updates and game updates.

The windows Updates can be made to be scheduled whit the help form deep Freeze and a WSUS server.

Look at page 5 in the management manual. That should help you make your cafe more robust.

http://www.faronics.com/whitepapers/DFEnt_PatchManagement.pdf



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Posted 22-09-2006 15:27:12
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Yeah, I had read that, I was just unsure whether they stayed or not, the wording in the document I was reading was a little unclear.

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Posted 23-09-2006 06:13:59
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A quick quetion on Steam; how does everyone manage their updates? We don't have/use the CAS server, so updates are done individually on each computer here. Just wondering how one would get around that. I haven't fully read the documentation yet, and I know the answer most probably be in there.

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I usually will update one machine fully, then put the steam folder on the network. Then push this folder out to some of the machines using a robocopy over night (it's almost 35 GB). It's a few day process, but it's easier and lighter on the bandwidth than updating each one. Nice part is, steam doesn't seem to mind being moved around.

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Posted 24-09-2006 16:11:27


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You think it would be quicker to use a usb external hard drive (LaCie) to copy over steam folders? I've been toying with this idea as a backup anyway and might be quicker than a 100MB network (we have 1G network but the switches slow everything down to 100M).


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Posted 20-03-2007 00:20:32
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Posted 29-03-2007 02:07:55


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The few times I've tried protect-on and Deep Freeze I've never liiked either one of them. Eventhough protect-on would've worked on our computers (which it doesn't for some strange reason), they both still SEEM to lack features I would like to have.

Our situation is as follows... I have been using Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit for a while now. It works so that you can either "Clear changes on each restart", "Retain changes indefinetly" or "Save changes (4th option not mentioned on purpose). Now that means I can choose the Retain changes, install softwares, reboot the computer, do some more things to it, reboot the computer and after that I can choose again to clear changes on next restart. After this the computer is restored to what it was before I chose "Retain changes". IF I would want to save all the modifications I have done so far I could choose "Save settings". Now ss I understand the function in deep freeze and protect-on, you can either select "Clear Changes" or "Save changes", you can not mess around with the computer few reboots and then restore it to the state it was few reboots ago?

I'm using a system, where customers can install drivers for their own mouses etc. and it often requires reboot. With Shared computer toolkit, this is no problem, but with the other softwares it would be impossible for the customer to install anything that requires reboot.

Also I couldn't just go to the computer, install something to it reboot and test a little bit

Now tell me if I just have not noticed the features and I'll be glad to find out they actually exist (in deep freeze for example). Since to my logic (after using shared computer toolkit) the whole system / idea in deep freeze and protect-on seems stupid .

The thing is that, shared computer toolkit is as I understand a lot more unstable than the other options. It's not horrible, but from time to time it will mess up some computers software, drivers and even windows itself and needs to be ghosted again.

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